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Frank Gifford

Thanks for the post, Jim. As I was reading the observation about boomer competition for grandiosity, I was reminded of an epiphany I received now some twenty years ago. "If you run in the rat race, the rats will win." That was the beginning of a long and often difficult journey to http://entropypawsed.org I invite everyone who fancies themself to be something other than a rat to find a way to drop out to the rat race, and engage in nature linked low energy living. Do it for the sake of the children of future generations. Thanks, Frank. Our blog is http://entropypawsed.blogspot.com

Jynx

Yes, this is a critical moment. Do we revitalize our urban landscapes bymaking them livable without an automobile and huge energy inputs? Or do we piss away our last chance at some sort of decent future by attempting to prop up Cartopia with its ghastly suburban landscape? Myself, I'm not hopeful.

ragtag5

Kunstler's weekly slamming of the south is getting tiresome. The cities of Charleston and Savannah practically invented the concepts of historical preservation. As for the "New Urbanists" of Seaside and their ilk, moronic architects have sited poorly designed communities for very wealthy part-time residents on flat barrier islands that are sure to be decimated by hurricanes. There is no "community" in these places - just transient rich folk from really shitty places like Kunstler's upstate New York. Give it a rest Jim.

asoka

Obama said: "We will not apologize for our way of life...."

Do we need apology and remonstrance at this point in our history? What good would an apology be?

We need billions to create an infrastructure that might allow us to be more independent of oil... and that is where Obama is focused.

squander n. blunderbush

I live in a village on Long Island, one of the "Main Streets" that the New Urbanists have sought to re-create. We are lucky to have a good connection to NYC via rail...though many of us still commute by car. I have great hopes that our location (a former deep-water port now needing dredging) will keep us from harm. The other possibility is our house in Maine, near where another deep-water port (Eastport) is quite viable.

I read "The Long Emergency"..also the newer book, and have been following your ideas for the last year. Thanks so much for making the esoteric communicable...for allowing the small-holders to understand what's in store.

I look forward to Mondays, and also have a deep-seated anxiety about what currently awaits us economically.

Kris

Seaside's original plan sounded nifty. Bohemian atmosphere...love it. Too bad it got sucked into the status game.

We have a few new urbanism towns around here. I always felt they were rather creepy...like a movie set or Disney's Main Street. They always boast working and shopping close to home. The problem is that the shops are too expensive and only a handful of people work very close in. So, mostly everyone commutes to work and on the way home stops at Wal-Mart.

One community has had a couple of corner markets go out of business because the rent was too high for the amount of business they were doing.

I'm wondering if after the big boxes get "shuttered" (media overplay on this word, btw)...if small businesses will rise again. Maybe not our current small businesses...they will probably die soon.

If we can survive the short-term upheaval, maybe the future holds opportunities. This could be the time to think about what you are good at and what you could have valuable to offer for sale or barter.

Doom is at hand. Wait it out and be thinking about small-scale opportunities after this all shakes out.

Kris7
Working hard at www.sccworlds.com

Laura Louzader

Jim, this is your very finest post of the past few weeks, and there's nothing to add to it...

Except to say that the reforms we need in the way we plan our cities and towns and arrange our transportation, will have to take place at the local level as much as the federal, and that, further, it isn't going to happen at the federal level because of the sheer weight of previous investment in our highway system, and the fact that most people in this country not only live suburban lifestyles, but have a lot invested in them emotionally.

The only way we can make changes at the federal level is to completely defund transportation, because as long as we allocate tax money to it, it will go for more $130 million/mile highways, and as long as the government helps housing in any way, the help will go to sprawl building in the exurbs.

If we completely defund transport, and let the user pay, people will damn well have to move close to rail lines and public transit, and our battered, hollowed-out heartland cities like Montgomery, Cleveland, St. Louis, Detroit, and Memphis will HAVE to rebuild their cores. Watch how fast cities that seem "too far gone" recover their downtowns and profitable transit companies and railroads, as people are no longer able to afford cars or air transit, in the absence of federal support for highway maintenance and air travel infrastructure. Or, for that matter, FHA and GNMA guaranteed loans for houses in the Inland Empire or the far exurbs of Chicago, St. Louis, or Atlanta.

If we want to help this process along, we need to kill the $800 billion stimulus bill. God knows there are plenty of other, still more compelling reasons to kill it, such as that if we continue to add to the public debt a trillion dollars more a pop, we will end up like Weimer Germany or Argentina.... or like someplace like the Ivory Coast.

Kris

Asoka:

That's what I was thinking about Obama's comment about not apologizing. I think he was trying to communicate to everyone and start getting people on the same page. If he would have started right in with..."We need to change our lives, immediately!" he would have alienated those who haven't been enlightened yet.

Right after his "no apology" comment, I'm pretty sure he made a plea for energy independence.

I want to believe he is busy working on the peak oil problem.

Kris7
Working hard at http://www.sccworlds.com

Chris

Hi Jim,

A good post. What a shame about Seaside.

One small factual correction: that "modest white clapboard-with-green-shutters house once occupied by Jefferson Davis" was actually the first Confederate "White House." After the first wave of secession in the winter of 1861, Montgomery became the first capital of the Confederacy. The capital was moved to Richmond later that year after Virginia seceded in order for the government to be closer to the main theatre of war in Northern Virginia.

judetennessee

We are so screwed. Obama's cabinet is filled with tax evaders, former rivals and also rans. Not an original idea will come from that bunch. It is big business as usual. Already the Big O has deep- sixed contraception funding and legal aid for the poor in a misguided effort to get the sorry loser, totally pout of touch Republicans to agree to his ill conceived and half baked economic stimulus package. Meanwhile Rome burns. It would be an amazingly wonderful thing if Obama would declare that he is not going to go for that second term and use his remaining first term to implement some of the ideas and ideals that he spread around so liberally during the campaign. Don't get me started as I voted 4 him OK!! If you remember back to JHK's Long Emergency he warns of demagogues rising up as things get worse. I am afraid we already have it in the form of Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin. They may well be the 2012 Republican pres and vp nominees. Sorry I have lived long enough to see what a terrifying inhumane place our society is fast becoming and to ponder what we have done to this beautiful planet. Looks like End Times to me.

envirosponsible

Resuscitating main street probably isn't on Obama's radar.

FEMA camps and a main corridor from Mexico to Canada though...

maxafrogamoose

"Thanks so much for making the esoteric communicable.." squander n. blunderbush

Yes, yes, i second that. Been enjoying the Clusterfuck nation from my high horse for quite a while. I was deeply fortunate to extract myself from a pleasent little community near Asspen Colorado where I'd been for four years; carbondale, and ride my bicycle across country from seattle to brooklyn where i now live. Sept 7 - Dec 12 '08. Thanks to a generous boss out there I have an Iphone and every monday while on tour I read this blog, like I said, from my high horse. I'm young and single and childless and I live a predominantley bike-centric car free life. I didn't pay for lodging once on tour and I slept in my bivy sack all but about once per state, cooking and looking at the stairs; records on stomparillaz.blogspot. Living simply in this day and age, is more pleasurable than people can fathom, and I hope to ride around the world before it's too late. Upon arrival in Brooklyn my good karma carried me into a brand new bike shop where i was hired and we work only with used bikes. To me now, professional positive service of simple sustainable technologies is the best show in town. I think we do need to apologize and be thankful for our way of life and be humble going forward. We shall see if the apocalypse arrives before we do that. If anyone in Brooklyn wants to check us out, we're also at brooklynbikeandboard.com 560 vanderbilt.

Thanks Jim..

Max

st.jim

yeah, seaside, that's what we used to call jim's place back in the days. god do i ever miss them, the days, that is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53_-OvLQodM&feature=related

Quin

>>The New Urbanists have gathered, organized, and
>>codified all the principle and methodology needed
>>to carry out this campaign. This should be their
>>moment. Mr. Obama and his team should get with
>>the program.

Is there one iota of evidence that Obama and his team are even *aware* of the program?

LaughingAsRomeWasBurningDown


JHK, Excellent column this week. Down by the Seaside? People turned away? So far way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-EIQiFUrlk

Pat

Heh - last year Kuntsler visited my little burgh of Austin Texas and proceeded to decry in-toto the revitalization of our "main-street" downtown sector. Apparently nowehere is Kinstler's favorite place. Just what is this clown's thesis anyway - to yell at the kids on his little tract of virgin Earth out in front of his exquisitely-crafted Gustav Stickler home?

bud4wiser

JK, thanks for the post card from the South. Empty "Big Box" buildings are indeed making an appearance on many community and regional news radars.

Holy Cow! You think? Could it be that some one might notice that the "TIF" money never seems to fix those schools or clean up the "old" strip malls and shopping centers?

My new "pet peeve" for this month is the "amazing attack" of the killer electric-grid trees. Oh sure, its 2009, but how the heck were electric utilities supposed to know that these "killer trees" would attack their lines in stormy weather? Please, god-damn-it, bail these useless bastards out - we've got to trim those "killer trees" now - we can't put this "tree problem" on to the backs of fat little diabetic comatose childrenof our future.

Another pet project might have something to do with just figuring out how to tear-down, clean up, and sod over the thousands and thousands of square blocks of ugly shit and building debris that seem to pervade the poorer areas of roughly 700 or 800 major urban cities.

After all, JK - the whole reason suburbs exist was to escape the rotten garbage produced from the previous tenants.

If we can't create "marketable" space, green or otherwise in our existing urban areas, and retrofit the infrastructure that supports it - you can give up on getting anyone to "make other arrangments."

And you of all people - knows exactly how the "markets" work in America - right Jim?


LaughingAsRomeWasBurningDown


> Just what is this clown's thesis

Sustainability?

ragtag5

The Gulf Coast between Pensacola and Panama City used to be a nice place to visit until the "New Urbanist" architects built their plastic imitations of the "Olde South" on the barrier islands to sell to monied northerners. For generations upon generations people had the good sense not to build there, except maybe a shack, because of the hurricanes and flooding. The New Urbanists have screwed up the area for everyone.

David Mathews

I'm pretty certain that the global economy will collapse, and with it all the dreams of building an entirely different civilization to replace this one which is presently dying right in front of our eyes.

Wasn't the Super Bowl spectacular? That's entertainment.

I'm observing the death of the consumer culture right now and it is a beautiful thing. May all of these retail stores go the way of the dinosaur. May all of their parking lots erode into dust and become forests again. May the roads empty and may the wallets empty and may the war machine and its parasites fade away.

The oil industry is suffering, too. Hopefully the collapse of the global economy deprive these people of their financing so that the industry dies like a fire deprived of oxygen.

This world is passing away and hopefully nothing will replace it. The Earth needs new management. Nature must take over from humankind because of humankind's incompetence, negligence, recklessness, self-destructiveness, and suicidal stupidity.

The end of civilization is a blessing. Don't mourn for the death of something which was so intent upon killing itself and its host planet.

http://www.flickr.com/dmathew1

Schizoid

Has the current economic destruction of the entire world come about by sheer chance and the naive blundering of government officials and bankers?

Or...

Is the entire world now under the control of a powerful elitist group of trillionaire money masters who are in the process of creating a fascist global government that will enslave us all?

While Jim prefers the former theory, I prefer the latter.

envirosponsible

Right on Schizoid. I asked Jim why he never mentioned NWO or other theories a month or more ago, and he told me that he doesn't mention them because he thinks they're nonsense.

Nudge

What's sad is that our heads are still so apparently mired in project-Apollo-scale, top-down, imposed-from-above thinking that at present we must have a whole "new urbanist movement" to tell us how to beautify our own living spaces.

Huh. The record is pretty clear about how, in ye olde days, the Benjamin Franklin Memorial New Urbanist Overseers Gang did not ride around the whole country imposing on every community small and large a sort of universal blueprint for how to arrange things. Things got arranged in order to meet local needs, which under that way of living were fairly similar in most places across the country.

The idea that yet another imposed-from-above or not-imagined-locally set of arrangements is going to save us from a previous imposed-from-above system is quite amusing in itself. Why do we keep seeking solutions by repeating the same mistakes that got us to this point?

Yawn.

Tom

Another good one, Jim.

As someone who has read your stuff for several years, I am encouraged by the way your writing has matured. Gone is the doomerism of old. It's good to see someone in the Peak Oil commmunity who can see the difference between the collapse of the consumer economy and the Apocalypse.

It's vitally important that there be articulate voices getting the word out that the end of cheap oil is not the end of the world. That the future can actually be better than what we have now. It won't necessarily be better but the more people speaking out against the doomers the more likely it will be.

beerzie boy

I'm afraid Jim's right: with Mr. O, it looks like it's going to be business as usual with the same gang of fixers and tired hacks. "Change" = a party with a different name. Same soap, different box. Perhaps the realities ahead will not make for cheery press conferences or palatable poll results, but Mr. O has four years ad a golden opportunity to wake people up. He'd better hurry and get with the program: there is a limited supply of political and actual capital to be spent before things get really ugly.

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