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Laura Louzader

Former financial executive, I am with you on all points.

Our vicious drug laws have done nothing but enrich criminal cartels, corrupt our law enforcement and our justice system, burden our prisons unduly while crowding out truly violent criminals who really need to be locked up, and unfairly target underclass blacks for prosecution and incarceration. I know many white drug users, and NONE of these people have ever been arrested, let alone incarcerated for possession or distribution.

Regarding welfare, people need to know that it is not a race issue, and only partly a class issue. I've been shocked to discover so many young white women who grew up in lower-middle and middle class homes, and even have 4-year degrees, who have out-of-wedlock children and are ON WELFARE, to boot. Welfare is overwhelmingly a gender problem, for most of the people taking it are women with children they can't support- or don't feel they ought to have to support, for after all, isn't a mom with kids entitled to male support? And if you don't get it, shouldn't the government step in? These women need to learn about personal responsibility and taking care of themselves, and the Fundamentalist Christian crowd, as well as most of the white working class and lower middle class, are NOT teaching their daughters how to take care of themselves, clearly.

It is deeply frightening to me, that at a time when we are clearly at the peak of our ability to carry an entire class of dependents, that another is being created. What will these people do when our entitlement programs begin to collapse? That is already happening in CA, and this mother of 14 medically needy kids might well find their support jerked out from underneath them, at a time in our history when even people who usually score good jobs are hard put to it to keep a paycheck coming in. Will millions of people who are pushed out of the middle class by the collapse of our economy be willing to help women who insist upon exercising their "right" to breed whether they can pay for it or not?

All Americans need to learn that all things have to be paid for, and if you are getting something you're not paying for, someone else is paying. Just as financial people need to know that they aren't entitled to mansions and yachts on our dime, other people need to learn that they don't have a right to burden us with the care of children they never could support. Any fertile woman collecting welfare for her kids ought to be prevented from having any more.

Dr.Doom

"Oh, and what the F is that Ryan Crocker dude doing to get such an amazing following at his blog? His view stats are simply amazing. He must be doing something right."

And, it's apparently keeping him busy there. Every time he shows up here, pour moi, it's "whack-a-mole" time.

Babystepper

Hi Nudge,

Tried to post this over at ZK on your latest thread and it failed twice. I may be banned over there.

There may be a reason to reconsider the SUV:

Best Reason Yet for Driving a Bulky SUV: You Might Stand a Better Chance of Surviving if the Cops Open Fire on You for No Reason

http://cryptogon.com/?p=6769

Babystepper

This woman is my new hero.

Fuck bankers. Literally and figuratively.

Wall St. Madam Shares Little Black Book
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6825504

I hope ABC has the knads to share these names.

Nudge

Hi Babystepper :)

You are welcome to post at the other other blog. Nobody is banned there yet. You might love the last few threads which did not get posted to ZK. The most recent one is particularly dark.

Nice SUV link. Actually I have been thinking it would be nice to have one now if only because my driving has become almost entirely local since the last vacation.

It was that week in October 08 when the meltdown was becoming obvious even to the J6P's of rural Ohio and rural Pennsylvania .. and, naturally enough, they channeled their fear and rage into threatening each other on the public roads. After spending a week and a half dodging those kamikaze pilots and their 4-ton land missiles, I decided to take the train if I have to go any further away than an hour or so .. it's just not worth the aggravation.

Since then, the same horrible road behavior has appeared even on the roads within 5 miles of here. Got passed twice last week (in double-yellow zones with blind turns) even though I was already going +5 over the limit. Un-fricking-believable. Since karma is endlessly recyclable, I wished them the fates they deserved, such as a flaming wreck that ends in the ditch, or perhaps the loss of income which causes the loss of the vehicle they're no responsible enough to drive.

But yeah, I'd feel safer dealing with tailgaters (the ones who follow at less than 10 feet distance) in something that weighs about as much as a dump truck.

Babystepper

More SUV Clusterfuck from my neck of the woods.

Man kills other man fighting over parking of large vehicles.

http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story/52-Year-Old-Man-Shot-and-Killed-at-Cordova/hFvO2TzoOk-WZ6t21GaoHQ.cspx?rss=59

Cymon Dendu

"Really? Including the ones in the Afghan campaign that was launched as a direct result of the attack on the World Trade center, sponsored by Al-Queda?"

Yup, really. Terrorist attacks don't threaten our fundamental freedoms unless we let them. Is al-Qaeda gonna overthrow the US government? Of course not. Stop wetting your pants.

Nudge

C'mon, Cymon, let's leave OEO a little wiggle room. Why, the next thing we could say is that since some 50,000 people are killed here every year in the United Parking Lot of America in auto accident's, Al-Quada's most effective means of killing us is to sell us cheap gasoline, not to do a few highly-publicized one-shot stunts like flying jetliners into buildings.

Did anyone or any agent firmly declare war on us in the same manner that Germany or Russia or France might do? No.

Did we decide to invade a country that formally had nothing to do with the attack of a few Saudi nutjobs on our own flying air/fuel bombs? Yes.

Dr.Doom

I just want to say this is the last post to this thread, because if I say that, someone(s) will post something just to nah-nah-it-ain't-so me.

Dr.Doom

Jim, regarding your daily grunt of 6 Feb., the first Bloomberg article you link says the reason for the DOW uptick was investors were predicting even more drastic job loses, so the actual data apparently had the effect of a boost to the DJIA points.

Bob Snowjob

"Or do we piss away our last chance at some sort of decent future by attempting to prop up Cartopia with its ghastly suburban landscape?"

Pretty much, yeah. Pass the popcorn.

The urban landscape in CFN is far more ghastly than the suburban.

Just ask a resident of Chicago if they'd rather live on the south side or in Evanston.

Laura Laz, your posts rock...maybe just because I'm familiar with the Chicago area. They hit home.

Bob Snowjob

asoka,

Fear is not necessarily bad. Presumably, sheep being led to slaughter have no fear, nor lemmings running over a cliff. Fear can motivate you to do things for your own survival when nothing else works, so in that way it can be healthy.

Bob Snowjob

We are NEARING the Rubicon?

bud4wiser

Time is running out. Soon, extranational interests, mainly US corporate leaders and the many congressmen they have bought and paid for, will devise schemes to "blame" working Americans for current financial sector "problems" and the government's lackluster response to it.

The crimes have been committed, and now the criminals will begin telling the victims its "their" fault.

We are entering post Clusterfuck America. Not good.

taylorbaxter

>"Kunstler's weekly slamming of the south is getting tiresome. The cities of Charleston and Savannah practically invented the concepts of historical preservation."

Kunstler has on several occasions listed Savannah and Charleston amongst his favorite American places. And unfortunately the quality of these two cities has no bearing whatsoever on the wastelands that are nearly all Southern cities. (PS - I am from the South.)

hildebdr

There is only one realistic option for the betterment of American society as a whole:
1. Middle-class takeover of the Fed, voting in their own candidates for governorships and senatorships. We need a president like we need a hole in the head. The presidency is replaced with a board of directors.
2. Eliminate municipal pension funds and replacing them with 401k's. Why am I paying Barack 400k for life when he's already successful?
3. Flat tax
4. Nationalize banking - everyone gets a home without paying more than 3% interest over 30 years, unless home and land is owned by the fed and leased for 75 years, whereby there is no interest
5. Nationalize health care - funding outlined in #7
6. Get a grip on the entire school system - funding outlined in #7
7. Fund Health care and Education with a nationalized sports program. No more privately owned sports teams. 50% of merchandising goes to federally funded health care and education, the rest to sports system maintenance and athlete salaries.
8. Force all US based companies to manufacture within US boundaries no matter what it takes, as this will beef up the tax base and crush unemployment
9. Wipe out the welfare state by mandating employment even where it requires daycare.
10. Nationalized daycare for single parents who can work.
11. The jump start: a one time 1% tax on every single US citizen and non-citizen residing in or out of the US based on their gross worth.

This is not the time to make room for the upper echelon. Nobody deserves to earn more than 1m $ per year and everyone deserves a job and a home, that is once they start working and stop loafing.

andwelaughed

As a Montgomery native, born and raised there, I must say that I am appalled by your uninformed generalizations about Montgomery's economy and way of life.

Now, I'm all for building communities and sustaining the environment, but I don't think picking on the South is the way to accomplish that.

If you based this article off more than what you observed on your drive-thru tour, you would know that Montgomery is in the process of renewing downtown. Civil rights and "white flight" left downtown barren, but in the past five years or so, the town has begun revitalizing it. An old train shed has been converted into a baseball stadium, and old warehouses have been converted into trendy loft apartments. First Baptist and St. John's Episcopal are beautiful churches in downtown Montgomery, and Dexter King Memorial Church has an ongoing building project. Yes, there are empty box stores, but we are making progress! The old Waccama building was recently converted into a state-of-the-art bowling alley, and the old PharMor building is now a new health center.

Change takes time and effort, and it's coming! The only way to achieve it is by working together. So, enough pretentiousness, enough high horse, enough looking down your nose. Montgomery isn't perfect, but it's home and I'm proud of how the city has started rebuilding.

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